Regular DJs are 50% funded by listener contributions, and it’s the place to go for interesting, offbeat, top-quality tunes. For those who aren’t familiar, NTS is an east London online radio station known for its excellent musical policy.

The result was a genuinely lovely conversation and a fine start to the series, which will feature Cosey Fanni Tutti, Mark Leckey and others. And Dill, curious without being disingenuous, was great too. Oh, he was such an excellent interviewee: funny about his lack of gardening knowhow, open about his family background, completely chill and charming at all times. “I’m at a new stage in my life, it’s even nice to be gardening.” The 26-year-old musical whiz, who has released tracks since he was 17, has recently been in Ghana: “Probably one of the best scenes I’ve ever experienced, the vibe is second to none.” He was detoxing over there (he recommended a blend of pineapple, cucumber and water: “Such a powerful detox I was even alarmed!”), as well as making music. “Looking at plants, that’s actually a life form!” he said, wowed.

It’s a simple enough idea, but the productive yet meditative nature of gardening, and the privacy of Flo’s allotment space (nobody else wanders into the recording), means that the guest can really relax and open up.

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